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	<title>Comments on: A Community Conspiracy.</title>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the encouragement!

I want to clarify, though, that I&#039;m not saying be reckless with our finances. I definitely believe there has to be a plan in place for investing in the community. Otherwise, I think it really would be poor stewardship.

For example, teaching a Spanish/English course could bring people in to an environment where we could talk to them toward Christ. So, maybe I wasn&#039;t totally honest with the &quot;no expectations&quot; thing - I think we need to have the expectation that we&#039;ll get to share the gospel with them, and whatever we invest has to work toward that end.

It&#039;s probably a given - but I wanted to make that point a little stronger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the encouragement!</p>
<p>I want to clarify, though, that I&#8217;m not saying be reckless with our finances. I definitely believe there has to be a plan in place for investing in the community. Otherwise, I think it really would be poor stewardship.</p>
<p>For example, teaching a Spanish/English course could bring people in to an environment where we could talk to them toward Christ. So, maybe I wasn&#8217;t totally honest with the &#8220;no expectations&#8221; thing &#8211; I think we need to have the expectation that we&#8217;ll get to share the gospel with them, and whatever we invest has to work toward that end.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably a given &#8211; but I wanted to make that point a little stronger.</p>
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		<title>By: James Lansberry</title>
		<link>http://isaacdowning.com/2008/10/17/a-community-conspiracy/comment-page-1/#comment-4951</link>
		<dc:creator>James Lansberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in.  There are lots of ways this can work, and if we can do this kind of outward expenditure of $$ and time (without expecting!  I like that!) without compromise of the message of the Gospel (always a temptation) then I think we&#039;d see some real change going on--maybe in very small chunks--but REAL change.

The skateboarding thing isn&#039;t *exactly* my bugaboo, but it&#039;s a sticky wicket.  I went to a church before that had a great sledding hill and there were signs posted all the time about people not coming and using the hill, etc.  The leadership said it was about liability and vandalism (though I&#039;d guess more the second than the first).  It always bugged me that a place that was supposed to be inviting to the lost your first impression was &quot;don&#039;t go in here or else!.&quot;  The liability issue is a big deal, though I have some thoughts about that.  The vandalism one isn&#039;t, though, to me.  I have a lot of kids, and they destroy stuff *all the time* that I would prefer didn&#039;t get destroyed.  And so I threw them out of the house.  um, not really--I consdier the occasional property destruction to be part of the cost of discipleship--and your thoughts here lend themselves to that.

Thanks for sharing them.  I&#039;m confident that this kind of attitude is going to be a blessing to the congregation God has called you to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in.  There are lots of ways this can work, and if we can do this kind of outward expenditure of $$ and time (without expecting!  I like that!) without compromise of the message of the Gospel (always a temptation) then I think we&#8217;d see some real change going on&#8211;maybe in very small chunks&#8211;but REAL change.</p>
<p>The skateboarding thing isn&#8217;t *exactly* my bugaboo, but it&#8217;s a sticky wicket.  I went to a church before that had a great sledding hill and there were signs posted all the time about people not coming and using the hill, etc.  The leadership said it was about liability and vandalism (though I&#8217;d guess more the second than the first).  It always bugged me that a place that was supposed to be inviting to the lost your first impression was &#8220;don&#8217;t go in here or else!.&#8221;  The liability issue is a big deal, though I have some thoughts about that.  The vandalism one isn&#8217;t, though, to me.  I have a lot of kids, and they destroy stuff *all the time* that I would prefer didn&#8217;t get destroyed.  And so I threw them out of the house.  um, not really&#8211;I consdier the occasional property destruction to be part of the cost of discipleship&#8211;and your thoughts here lend themselves to that.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing them.  I&#8217;m confident that this kind of attitude is going to be a blessing to the congregation God has called you to.</p>
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